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Diverting Experiences

Walked down Hither Green Lane this evening to see what effect the road closure and bus diversions were having.

On the positive side, road traffic seemed much lighter than on a normal evening. Good news for cyclists and fit pedestrians. Traffic heading south along Hither Green Lane had plenty of opportunities to take diversions and things seemed to be going reasonably well for them.  It was more chaotic for the traffic which intended to travel northwards from Courthill Road and found the entrance into Hither Green Lane blocked and were forced to take last minute decisions  on whether to turn back, or to continue along Courthill Road past its road closed signs, or continue into Morley Road.  Complicated by the cars coming south along Courthill Road.  One scary moment when a car went up the wrong way up Courthill Road into the oncoming traffic.  Overall, a lot of stressed and angry motorists.

When I reached Lewisham High Street I decided to test the instructions to bus drivers that they were supposed to pick up and drop off passengers wherever it was safe to do so along the route of the diversion.  I managed to stop a 225 at the bus stop outside the Ladywell Leisure Centre going southwards along Lewisham High Street.  Everything seemed OK until he ignored the requests of the people on the bus to stop along Brownhill Road.  He also ignored the diversion into Torridon Road, turned into Hither Green Lane at the Brownhill Road junction, and only stopped to let off some pretty angry passengers at the Duncrievie Road stop. 

I decided to test whether this was a one off and caught another 225 in Torridon Road. This driver seemed pretty friendly and helpful.  He failed to pick up a passenger who hailed him on Brownhill Road, but that was a non-deliberate oversight, and he let me off at Lewisham High Street at the corner of Courthill Road quite cheerfully.

A bit later, waited to see if buses would stop again outside Ladywell Leisure Centre.  A 225 bus driver came along and, upon seeing me, passed by.  After a certain time, a 181 bus driver came along and, upon seeing me, passed by.  As witnessed by Max Calo.  And then a good Samaritan 181 driver came along, questioned me as to where I was going, and took me to the junction of Brownhill Road and Torridon Road, and let me and the other passengers off, as according to the regulations.

So it all depends on the goodwill of the bus driver as to whether (1) you get on and (2) get off the bus.

One thing which people in the area were universally annoyed by was what the lack of notice at the closures.  All in all a sorry story which needs more probing.

 

 

 

 

5.8.08 22:51
 


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Max / Website (6.8.08 13:14)
I'm relieved you found a merciful driver at the end. Have you contacted the bus company?


(6.8.08 17:58)
Not yet, although Lewisham Council have forwarded my blog entry to LT for their comment 'should there be one'.


Passenger (6.8.08 23:28)
Would it not make sense for the buses to stop at all bus stops along the route of the diversion?


(7.8.08 03:39)
But that would put the convenience of customers before that of the bus company!


Clint (9.8.08 14:34)
The 181 driver we had today argued strenuously with me that they cannot let anyone off the bus whilst on diversion, so we had to wait until it turned south off Brownhill Road onto Torridon Road. That makes the service pretty terrible for those of us living in more central Hither Green.

I was tempted to hit the door open button, but last time we saw someone do that the driver jumped out of the bus and tried to slug the guy …

Its also really poor as well that there is still no mention of the diversion on the TFL web site. Oh well, not much longer I guess. I’ll be ringing the bus company to complain on Monday anyhow.


(9.8.08 17:54)
It does seem as though drivers make the rules up as they go along. This afternoon I caught a 225 into Lewisham and the driver was perfectly reasonable about stopping when requested. On the way back the driver announced that the 225 was non-stopping until Hither Green station. This provoked quite a protest - in which I played a fairly prominent role - and the driver relented and stopped to let people off. Except the Duncrievie Road stop where I rang the bell to be let off! And he made a point of not picking up anyone who hailed the bus on the diversion route.

Tempers not helped by the fact that we'd waited for nearly an hour in the rain for the bus to turn up at all.


Andrew (9.8.08 18:01)
Anyway, this is the relevant extract from the information for drivers which councillors were sent about the diversion:

"Note
Route 225 please allow passengers to board and alight in Hither Green Lane so that they can connect with route 181, also both routes due to the size of the diversion where possible and safe allow passengers to board and alight where requested.

Dave Walsh
Area Manager South"

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